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how is samsung going to compete? they are going to compete on price price. >> one of the other points is it is not a big enough difference. i am still on the iphone 4. now i am upgrading to the iphone 5. it is not a big enough difference. there is a bunch of issues. >> the financial question and that is how much of a discount to valuation would apple have to suffer if this were the case? if the iphone 5 margins are 55% right now that is what jeffreys is estimating according to their tear down, how much can they sacrifice in terms of the subsidy and make money and be valued? that is the question for investors. >> actually a better question or a very good question equal to that is if the subsidies were to end would the sunsumers pay the premium. people who love apple products would. on the margin people can get other types of phones that are considered pretty good phones and maybe not in the ecosystem. maybe they don't care about the ecosystem. maybe they realize i use my google mail and apple phone and use it all and
how is samsung going to compete? they are going to compete on price price. >> one of the other points is it is not a big enough difference. i am still on the iphone 4. now i am upgrading to the iphone 5. it is not a big enough difference. there is a bunch of issues. >> the financial question and that is how much of a discount to valuation would apple have to suffer if this were the case? if the iphone 5 margins are 55% right now that is what jeffreys is estimating according to their...
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yes, i picked europe to win, i also picked samsung over apple, the wicked witch over dorothy and savannah state over florida. i
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last year apple sued samsung in multiple countries and samsung countersued. >>> it is october, we're think being the holidays. americans are expected to spend more during the busiest shopping season of the year but they are also at the same time displaying more caution. the national retail federation says it is expecting sales during the winter holiday season to rise 4.1% this year, more than a percentage point lower than the growth in each of the last two years and it would be the smallest increase we've seen since 2009. the crash came up, people spent less in 2008 and spent more off of that relative basis. retailers depend on the last two months of the year for up to 40% of annual sales and the nrf is predicting merchants to hire between 585,000 and 625,000 holiday season workers. >>> boeing engineers and technical workers rejected a four-year contract offer. they'll return to the bargaining table today to strike a new labor agreement for 23,000 workers. the union and boeing agreed beforehand to resume talks today if the proposed pact was voted down, the current labor agreement exp
last year apple sued samsung in multiple countries and samsung countersued. >>> it is october, we're think being the holidays. americans are expected to spend more during the busiest shopping season of the year but they are also at the same time displaying more caution. the national retail federation says it is expecting sales during the winter holiday season to rise 4.1% this year, more than a percentage point lower than the growth in each of the last two years and it would be the...
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it remains to be seen now that the iphone 5 is out and the samsung galaxy iii is out in the channel. >> all right, john. thank you so much. stock up big, 14% higher on r.i.m. up next, europe is a mess. the u.s. and china are slowing down. where is global growth coming from? bob hormats is with me. >>> then, it seems like a number of americans are learning a bad habit from washington. we'll tell you which one next. e, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a lo
it remains to be seen now that the iphone 5 is out and the samsung galaxy iii is out in the channel. >> all right, john. thank you so much. stock up big, 14% higher on r.i.m. up next, europe is a mess. the u.s. and china are slowing down. where is global growth coming from? bob hormats is with me. >>> then, it seems like a number of americans are learning a bad habit from washington. we'll tell you which one next. e, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's...
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an apple requested injunction against samsung's galaxy 10.1. samsung got a billion dollar lawsuit in a case apple filed against it and apple seeking to block those from coming into the country with a trillion dollar penalty but samsung winning a rare victory for itself in this round. let's talk baseball. a billion people in the online kent and wants to sell them stuff. for the first time yesterday the company letting customers buy real products online. not just the cartoon sheet or vulture will martinis that eyeglasses and sweet and starbucks and stereos. 100 visitors at first will give wall street and early clue to the new revenue stream. facebook gets 80 present of sales from ads and a new face the gifts service if it thrives may -- may be facebook takes on amazon and ebay. cheryl: the dow ending september with negative numbers but it is actually positive. we have a lot more green ahead. dennis: feeling fine. we will tell you about amazon's move back into the online vendor business. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 you should've seen me today. tdd#: 1-80
an apple requested injunction against samsung's galaxy 10.1. samsung got a billion dollar lawsuit in a case apple filed against it and apple seeking to block those from coming into the country with a trillion dollar penalty but samsung winning a rare victory for itself in this round. let's talk baseball. a billion people in the online kent and wants to sell them stuff. for the first time yesterday the company letting customers buy real products online. not just the cartoon sheet or vulture will...
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i still am loyal to my personal device is a samsung galaxy s2. i don't have it in my pocket because they make me take it out before i'm on camera. i've been in boxes moving over the past couple of weeks. so as soon as i get it unboxed, i'll be upgrading. i also carry apple devices as well. we're a cross-platform company today. you know, without the success of samsung, without the success of android, without the success of iphone from apple, we wouldn't have a market to go after. and it's that competition that leads to innovation throughout the industry. and we're hoping that that growth continues. i mean, four-fifths of the world don't have smartphones yet. and much of the world, including africa, southeast asia, their first interaction with the internet or with financial transactions is going to be through the mobile. it's not going to be through a pc. we're just at the beginning of this mobile revolution around the world. >> omar, thanks for your time. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> omar khan of nq. >> come back and let us know when
i still am loyal to my personal device is a samsung galaxy s2. i don't have it in my pocket because they make me take it out before i'm on camera. i've been in boxes moving over the past couple of weeks. so as soon as i get it unboxed, i'll be upgrading. i also carry apple devices as well. we're a cross-platform company today. you know, without the success of samsung, without the success of android, without the success of iphone from apple, we wouldn't have a market to go after. and it's that...
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i think they're forced in to it because they're actually competing against the samsung galaxy note at this point. they're forced into that. so if i were a buyer, i would either buy google or i'd be a buyer of amazon and i would wait to see what happens with apple. i think it can go $50 or $60 lower before you see the run back up. >> brian kelly, the trade of late has been impressive, a dramatic rise. it's outperformed apple. you can see that on the chart. it tells a really good story. are you buying the story? >> certainly if you're buying the stock here, you've missed a good portion of the run. >> if you buy apple here, you've missed the run, too. >> we have something to shoot against. apple you have something to shoot against. you have the 650 level which it seems to be holding against that. you can buy apple here. and we just heard that there is a product cycle here. we have the ipad mini. we potentially have the apple tv coming in next quarter or the next year. and to me i'm not that worried about the margins. it's kind of like a king cut prime rib which bk likes to order and a qu
i think they're forced in to it because they're actually competing against the samsung galaxy note at this point. they're forced into that. so if i were a buyer, i would either buy google or i'd be a buyer of amazon and i would wait to see what happens with apple. i think it can go $50 or $60 lower before you see the run back up. >> brian kelly, the trade of late has been impressive, a dramatic rise. it's outperformed apple. you can see that on the chart. it tells a really good story. are...
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will it create end roads for rivals like google and samsung? jay thinks is this a troubling sign while roy says the issue really is minor. jay, this is more evidence for you that you feel apple's better days are behind them, yes? >> well, their best days were just when they invented the iphone and the ipad. i don't know how any company will have better days than that. i think they still have very good days ahead of them. i think this is a worrisome sign because it's software that's core to the company, core to the experience of the ipad and iphone. they had to get it right. they knew they couldn't screw this up. somehow they did screw it up. >> roy, you said tim cook did the right thing by apologizing and it's not such a big deal. tell us how you feel. >> definitely. when the original iphone 4 rolled out, steve jobs' immediate response was, you're holding the phone wrong. he got a lot of backlash. a few days later, they released bumpers to everybody. they admitted there was an issue. they changed it. obviously there was an error and they've fix
will it create end roads for rivals like google and samsung? jay thinks is this a troubling sign while roy says the issue really is minor. jay, this is more evidence for you that you feel apple's better days are behind them, yes? >> well, their best days were just when they invented the iphone and the ipad. i don't know how any company will have better days than that. i think they still have very good days ahead of them. i think this is a worrisome sign because it's software that's core...
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but whether it is an iphone, or a great samsung galaxy 3, we have a great set of capabilities for our customers and they're going to only get better. >> let me close with a somewhat wonky question about what having a separately traded stock means for t-mobile. what does that allow you to do? what does it say about the future, and what, if anything, does it imply about what deutsche telecom's sort of plan might be for its stake in the company? >> that's a great question. deutsche telecom is committed to the u.s. market. look at this as deutsche telecom's saying. we're doubling down. we believe in the growth of the u.s. market. this market is so much more growing and profitable than european markets. they're in this deal very excited. but what it also does is when we need to respond, we can go and we can tab debt markets, we can tap equity markets to position ourselves, continue to grow in this great space. it gives us a lot of possibilities an as a great growth stock we think it is going to give investors another alternative and amongst other things, consumers who have been waiting to
but whether it is an iphone, or a great samsung galaxy 3, we have a great set of capabilities for our customers and they're going to only get better. >> let me close with a somewhat wonky question about what having a separately traded stock means for t-mobile. what does that allow you to do? what does it say about the future, and what, if anything, does it imply about what deutsche telecom's sort of plan might be for its stake in the company? >> that's a great question. deutsche...
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apple now its iphone 5, according to samsung, infringes on patents in a different suit. microsoft today look at biotext, bob talked about strength in health care today, certainly moving to biotext, 1% today. among the leader there is, i will lumina, london times reporting maybe it could get another bid from roche for a buyout. accord da they are rah put ticks joining the s and p 600 and gill jabbed on fire. >>> to the bond market and the pits and rick santelli is there hi, ricky. >> hi. watching the volatility plum net treasuries, a two-day chart of tenures are, side way, the ekg of a calm person, certainly not me. if you open this up to one-week chart, we have been in like a 4 1/2 basis point closing range, going nowhere quickly, hovering in the low 160s. hey, the reserve bank of australia cult rates. look at the intraday chart of the aussie versus the green back. see deterioration there a bit. if want to stick with the currency theme, look at the dollar index year-to-date. of course it got drilled when it expect spd qe 3, once it arrived, a bare uptick, very small, but
apple now its iphone 5, according to samsung, infringes on patents in a different suit. microsoft today look at biotext, bob talked about strength in health care today, certainly moving to biotext, 1% today. among the leader there is, i will lumina, london times reporting maybe it could get another bid from roche for a buyout. accord da they are rah put ticks joining the s and p 600 and gill jabbed on fire. >>> to the bond market and the pits and rick santelli is there hi, ricky....
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. >> almost sounds like you're coming down on the samsung lawsuits back and forth. everybody is suing everybody for i thought of it first, i came up with it the right way. >> that's the real problem in the high tech world is when you lose out in the marketplace you sue somebody. i wish we could get rid of all that crap. >> craig, stay where you are. julia, thank you for the report, very interesting stuff this morning. >> it is. >>> coming up more from craig barrett on the state of education and the future of america and later the first trading day of the fourth quarter ready to kick off on wall street. what's ahead this quarter and beyond with jeremy siegel. "squawk" is coming right back. customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) h
. >> almost sounds like you're coming down on the samsung lawsuits back and forth. everybody is suing everybody for i thought of it first, i came up with it the right way. >> that's the real problem in the high tech world is when you lose out in the marketplace you sue somebody. i wish we could get rid of all that crap. >> craig, stay where you are. julia, thank you for the report, very interesting stuff this morning. >> it is. >>> coming up more from craig...
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samsung's stock got hit with the apple lawsuit. doesn't apply to the galaxy s3. buy samsung today. we think it's a good long-term holding. >> even though most people think apple. >> but take intel. ten times earnings because people are nervous about pc shipments. intel has a data center business. it's got a 25% return on equity. or go overseas to europe. the eurozone stocks have been hit by the european crisis. vote-a-phone owns 45%. or take kia motors, the large auto company in korea. kia is taking share away from global competitors. even though the eurozone is under real pressure, kia has increased its sales 25% in europe last year by taking market share away there. are good companies generating strong cash flow, strong balance sheets that are taking market share. >> to me it just sounds like you're talking about comcast. don't you wish you recommended that at 19 or 20? >> we're not that worried about the ones that we missed. >> have you watched? >> yes, i have. >> great management. >> great nt
samsung's stock got hit with the apple lawsuit. doesn't apply to the galaxy s3. buy samsung today. we think it's a good long-term holding. >> even though most people think apple. >> but take intel. ten times earnings because people are nervous about pc shipments. intel has a data center business. it's got a 25% return on equity. or go overseas to europe. the eurozone stocks have been hit by the european crisis. vote-a-phone owns 45%. or take kia motors, the large auto company in...
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samsung. you can't talk about an android selling phones to carriers. it's lg and htc and motorola. a lot of them are not doing well in the android platform. and i think rim has a real shot by own iing their platform and software and having this loyal user who value the experience. they are going to come out of the gates with a strong couple quarters and win back market share. >> i mean you may be an app developer for all i know, but if you were one and you could only develop for one platform, would it be for blackberry? >> that's a good question. here's the thing. you're going to go where people are. there's two ways to look at it. there's a pint up demand on blackberry 10. and a lot of successful developers go to that. i know a lot of blackberry fans who made a lot of money on blackberries. and apple has more users. it could be an overnight success but there's a lot of stories you don't hear about who are spending a lot of money and not making any money and not getting the download. there's so much conversation. >> final question. how much of the success of the 10 depends on the k
samsung. you can't talk about an android selling phones to carriers. it's lg and htc and motorola. a lot of them are not doing well in the android platform. and i think rim has a real shot by own iing their platform and software and having this loyal user who value the experience. they are going to come out of the gates with a strong couple quarters and win back market share. >> i mean you may be an app developer for all i know, but if you were one and you could only develop for one...
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because right now people are saying, let me get into that samsung line. it's the greatest -- >> and then a difficult story to read, nokia apparently considering selling their 55,000 square foot headquarters in finland, burning the furniture. i don't know if they have reached that point or not. >> it does feel like a citizen cain situation burning there. i don't understand. nokia is literally -- it's like someone called me on "mad money" and said, nok means no. not okay. not okay to buy. i mean, people keep wanting to come in and say, listen, this is the bottom of nokia. one of the major things i learned while working in my hedge fund is that stocks do stop at zero so you may get lucky here. >>> when we come back, he's known for his winning bet at subprime. what is kyle bass betting now? especially about japan? and we'll talk to david faber at the barefoot economic summit in texas. then -- >> cuff links, gold ones. >> not on our watch. >> lifelock kicking off a big week for ipos. we'll bring you the opening trade and talk to the ceo about his company's wal
because right now people are saying, let me get into that samsung line. it's the greatest -- >> and then a difficult story to read, nokia apparently considering selling their 55,000 square foot headquarters in finland, burning the furniture. i don't know if they have reached that point or not. >> it does feel like a citizen cain situation burning there. i don't understand. nokia is literally -- it's like someone called me on "mad money" and said, nok means no. not okay....
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but will next year's blackberry 10 help stop the loss of market share to companies like apple and samsung, thorsten heins will join us first on cnbc. >>> the fight for the swing states. senator rand paul hoping to bring libertarian and tea party voters into the romney camp. we'll ask him about his message to voters in battleground states just north of his like ohio. >>> and it's the final trading day of the third quarter. find out what's making you money and what's dragging your portfolio down in our sector spotlight. >>> the third hour of "squawk box" starts right now. ♪ what does that mean nothing going to break my stride nobody going to slow me down ♪ ♪ oh no i got to keep on moving ♪ >> welcome back. i don't know. welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc first in business worldwide, i'm joe kernen along with becky quick and andrew ross sorkin, and our guest host is bethany mclean, author "the smartest guy in the room" the account of record on the fall of enron and she's a cnbc contributor and -- >> and also her doubles are here, her most recent book. >> we had seamus on last
but will next year's blackberry 10 help stop the loss of market share to companies like apple and samsung, thorsten heins will join us first on cnbc. >>> the fight for the swing states. senator rand paul hoping to bring libertarian and tea party voters into the romney camp. we'll ask him about his message to voters in battleground states just north of his like ohio. >>> and it's the final trading day of the third quarter. find out what's making you money and what's dragging...